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2.1 Huset de Créqui
2.2 Senere ledd n
3 de Créqui-våpen
4.1 la Roche n
5 Fam. i Nederland n
Ahasverus de Créqui
6 Ahasverus n
7 Militær karriere
8.1 1. Carl Gustav n
8.2 2. Carl Gustav n
9 1660-1675 n
10 Nordiske kriger n
11.1.1 Johanna n
11.1.2 Catharina n
11.2.1 Ahasv. dy n
11.2.2 Karen, Judith og
11.3 Betje Adriaens
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Aner og annet
12.1 Sweers n
12.1 Sweers e
12.2 Isaac Sweers e
12.3 Abt. Sweers
13 de Vinck e
14.1 Riisbrich n
Sweers Island e
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No 5 - December 2001 Editor of this issue: Carsten Berg Høgenhoff,
Editoral committee on this issue: Sigurd Lambek, Oregon, U.S.A., René
Lesage, Fauquembergues, Pas-de-Calais, France and Erik Tøndevold,
- Remark # 1 - The name
In his first remark, Mr. Vigerust questions my use of the name "Ahasverus
de Créqui" alone, and thus my disregard of using
his whole name, Ahasverus de Créqui dit la Roche (or versions
thereof). Vigerust continues: "I do not share Mr. Berg's opinion
that there should be any insecurity about the name" (i.e.; de/dit
la Roch(i)e). "There is no doubt that our man, (...), used the
family name dit la Rochie".
- Remark # 2 - The Coat-of-Arms
is merely a confirmation of the fact that Ahasverus de Créqui
dit la Roche used the Coat-of-Arms of the noble, French family de
Créqui; the red, seven branched crequier (plum tree) on gold.
Having spoken with Mr. Vigerust prior to the publication of his remarks,
I know that his intention was to have the information about the seal
presented in NST IV ( Olaf
Jæger, 1934 ) confirmed or, if possible, falsified. It proved
that Mr. Jæger was right, but one should of course always reinvestigate
what others have done before us. This in now done by Mr. Vigerust
and us alike, and it is carefully confirmed that Ahasverus used the
créquier in his seal.
- Remark # 3
is about Ahasverus de Créqui dit la Roche's ancestral origin.
Here, as stated above, we are all on thin ice, even though I do belive
that our knowledge within SIEC about possible theories may be somewhat
deeper than Mr. Vigerust's. "I believe that (the) difference
in names is important, and that Mr. Berg may have placed him (Ahaverus)
in the wrong family", argues Mr. Vigerust, meaning that Ahasverus
used "de Créqui" as a middle name and "dit la
Rochie" as a family name.
- "A(hasverus) de Créquy dit La Roche"
- "Getruit Rengers"
- "J(ean) Créqui Sr de larochie"
(possibly there is a "D" hidden in the "J", but
I am not sure)
- "Judiet De Créquy".
- 1612: Jonkheer, Captain Johan de Crequy gesigt
Larosge (Ahasverus' father),
- Johan de Créqui (Ahasverus' brohter, who
sometimes called himself de Créqui de la Roche, and at other
times used de Créqui alone). In 1641 he is called Johan Cressie
de la Roche. In 1657: Johan de Crequy, Sieur de la Roche
- Ahasverus himself, of course: Ahasverus de Créqui
gezagd dict La Roche
- 1642; Bartholemeus de Crequi de la Roche and
1657; Bartholemeus de Crequy, Sieur de la Roche, Knight (Ridder)
And also two who lived many years after Ahasverus:
- Jonkheer Jan de Crequi de la Roche married to
Engerje Willems Tienthof at Loosduinsche Roman Catholic Church 19
Nov 1719, outside Den Haag, and also another Jan;
- Jan de Crequi de la Roche married to Pieternella
van Es, died 30 Oct 1795 in Poeldijk.
- Either, Mr. Vigerust is right in his suggestion
that Ahasverus should correctly be placed in a la Roche family.
- Or: Delgobe/Kielland were right, and Ahasverus
should be placed in the de Créquy family. We remember René
Lesage's words above: The practice of nicknames (sobriquets) was perpetuated
to distinguish, in the same village, between families carrying the
same name, with the formula "dit". Obviously, "dit
la Roche" being French, we will have to look to France or possible
French-speaking Belgium (Wallonia) to find the name's origin. This
leaves the possibility open for solution number two.
- The de la Roches, the arms of Ahasverus, carry
" a red field with a black mountain" . To my knowledge,
and I have made reference to de Renesse, Heraldic Figures, the La
Roches ofBritanny (Bretagne) are showing their arms the same way,
" Black Mountain on a Gold Field" and not on a red field.
The Mountain (or rock) is also shown with the de la Roche duForez-Lyonnais.
Perhaps some french sources to be explored further.
- London, British Library Additions.
- 21436. Shortened history of the genealogy
of the house of Crequy adjusted with titles which were public
as well as private since the known origin in this year 1739. (Copy
to the Comite d'Histoire du Haut-Pays).
- 27940.Genealogy of the ancient and illustrious
House of Crequy, arranged by Pierre d'Hozier. 15 Oct 1623. Late
- 27941. see 21436
- 27942. Pedigrees of the families of Cumberford
or de Comerford and de la Roche with alliances compiles from visitations
of College or Armes. (followed by blazons of Crequy)
- 27932. Genealogical Scrowl of the Eldest
Seigneurs if the very noble and very powerful House of Crequy.
(1683-1687) A. Copies of Arms in colours (Crequy, Croy, Lallain